tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1875195811184851268.post1558852095150391050..comments2024-01-08T15:24:14.843-06:00Comments on From Beginning to End...and Back Again: In the Best Interest of the KidsLisa Jacques Elamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09436627482635590384noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1875195811184851268.post-73294013324590079622014-04-25T12:35:03.405-05:002014-04-25T12:35:03.405-05:00"Insane"? Really? So parents have concer..."Insane"? Really? So parents have concerns and they are insane? Nice. Yes our kids are at risk out in the world, but in the school when the BOE states that our kids safety is their #1 priority and then they let non staff and non parent individuals in the school with them then any parent who doesn't have a concern is just plain lazy, ignorant and uncaring! See that whole judgmental name calling thing can go both ways. When on the school grounds, parents have the right to expect complete safety for their children especially when the school says that is what they are getting. What if after all of this no compromise is reached and it all stays as it is? What if a child is hurt or worse because of this very situation? What if it is your child? Then will a little compromise on both sides seem like such a big of a deal?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1875195811184851268.post-24586852189072768712014-04-25T10:03:18.694-05:002014-04-25T10:03:18.694-05:00Wow so you all are insane enough to assume people ...Wow so you all are insane enough to assume people will always to bad when possible. News flash this is the school gym so in order for kids to be in there then there has to be a teacher or school member in there with them. So what is the issue other then your afraid of people looking at your child. News flash that happens when they are outside playing by people driving by or by people living in the homes behind there. If your are that crazy and insane to assume people will always do bad then just home school your child.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1875195811184851268.post-48339738889206949952014-04-24T13:44:00.961-05:002014-04-24T13:44:00.961-05:00I rarely comment on my own blog, but for the above...I rarely comment on my own blog, but for the above comment, I will make an exception. The fact that you have such blatantly "attacking" opinions and yet hide under "anonymous" speaks volumes about you and your character. I did not start the facebook page, but I did join it. My blog has nothing to do with the admins of the page other than the fact that I do understand their concerns and voiced my own. In fact I can honestly say I have never even met the admins of the page. I however, like the admins of the page voiced my opinions openly and used my name both here and on the page. I stand behind my opinions and therefore I don't feel the need to hide behind "anonymous" to express them. Of course I wasn't attacking anyone for believing different than myself. I was simply saying that parents have valid reasons to be concerned and their voices should be listened to by the district. As for claiming someone wants their 40 seconds of fame by doing this, then I assume if there is ever anything you feel strongly about and you need to be heard on, then you too would be looking for nothing more than 40 seconds of fame and not merely standing up for what you believe is right. Of course it doesn't appear that you have the integrity to openly stand up for your beliefs. That takes someone who is confident enough in what they believe in to actually make their voice known and brave enough to let others know just who they are. You have proved that is not you. May I suggest that you also do your homework before you make assumptions about people and their reasons for doing things. You have no idea what my reasons are for speaking out nor do I believe that you know the reasons the admins of the page decided to speak out. All you knew is that you disagreed and therefore everyone else was wrong and your opinion is the only one that matters. My suggestion to you would be that in the future if you have an opinion on a subject and actually want to be taken seriously then don't hide behind anonymity. Quit judging other peoples motives, parenting styles or actions, pull up your big kid pants and work as part of this community that you claim to like being a part of and help to find a compromise that works for everyone. Until then, perhaps you should ask yourself just how firmly you feel you are right if you must hide behind anonymous? Sincerely.....Lisa ElamLisa Jacques Elamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09436627482635590384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1875195811184851268.post-86487150763274069672014-04-24T11:39:23.009-05:002014-04-24T11:39:23.009-05:00I am embarrassed about the way these parents have ...I am embarrassed about the way these parents have gone about addressing this so called "issue"....you should have voiced your concern 2 years ago when the plans were made. We voted this in you had your chance. I feel horrible for the senior citizens of our community that have to listen to this nonsense. The only thing different in our world today is that back then when kids played outside "safely" compared to today is that things were possibly just as scary but you didn't here it because it was not publicized like it is today. Most of our news and social media streams are nothing but bad things happening. If you noticed KSN and KAKE news only interviewed people with negative opinions and not once did they interview a parent with a positive aspect to the gym. And I know for a fact there are many out there that are for the grade school/MRC gym the way it is because I saw their posts on your forum before you took it down. Hmmmmmm… I find that sad, but these few parents making a big stink about our senior citizens walking an elevated track, with locked doors to the grade school are looking for their 40 seconds of fame!! Well congratulations you have achieved your goal!! Now mark that off you bucket list of things to do. If you don't like something in our community or you feel our administrators are not keeping your children's safety first on their list then go search for another district, but leave ours alone!! I did not grow up here but I have been here for 14 years and specifically picked Mulvane for my children. My kids have never been in any danger in these schools and the administrators have always put the children first!! It is just beyond my understanding why these parents would take this to the media before talking with the board members and if you say that they have lied from the beginning then you are blind. We can only protect our kids to a certain extent so that they may grow and have memorable childhoods as most of us did, but the rest is up to our God. This is getting way off the subject but the parents responsible for starting a “discussion” on facebook, opening a forum and closing it when they didn’t like what the other side had to say, and then creating a blog, to me has way too much time on their hands. Take all that time and energy you are putting into making up false accusations and lies about nothing you really don’t have all the facts about and go outside and play with your children that you keep in a safe bubble. Not trying to be rude but if you fear for the safety of your children in your neighbor hood then I am assuming they stay inside all day and never go out nor do they attend any type of school field trip and I bet none of them ride the school bus ever. Just saying, our school district along with the MRC does everything possible to put the safety of our children first. Now stop making a mountain out of a mole hill and let’s go on about enjoying our new facility/grade school gym without the media coming in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1875195811184851268.post-42561378820763987182014-04-24T08:41:13.819-05:002014-04-24T08:41:13.819-05:00I keep hearing how people should have been informe...I keep hearing how people should have been informed before they voted on this issue. What about the parents who are new to the district. They did not vote for this. Does that mean they should have no say in the issue? It effects every child, whether their parents blindly voted for it, or didn't vote at all. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1875195811184851268.post-83202393088405032832014-04-24T00:55:52.791-05:002014-04-24T00:55:52.791-05:00To the above commenter, you say "trust the ad...To the above commenter, you say "trust the administration." That is hard to do when the administration is not trustworthy. I have been lied to or caught both staff and administration in lies on numerous occasions. They are really good at passing the buck and playing the blame game, but when caught in someones cross hairs, they lie out their butts. In regards to school security, I don't know how you have been just "buzzed" into the school when others, myself included have had to answer 20 questions before being allowed in the school. If this administration wants the respect of the parents then they need to reciprocate that respect and listen to the concerns of the parents. Maybe the media should have been the last line of defense, but for some parents who have dealt with this administration on other issues in the past, they likely knew they were dealing with a brick wall opposition and preferred to cut out the middle man and go straight for the media. I might not have taken that route but I don't blame the ones who did. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1875195811184851268.post-34393011240564650832014-04-23T23:43:04.630-05:002014-04-23T23:43:04.630-05:00I have three children in the Mulvane School Distri...I have three children in the Mulvane School District, one at the Munson Primary, the Grade School, and the Middle School. Yes, to access the building you are required to be buzzed in most of the time. However, there are times that people exit the building and hold the door open for others to enter. I have never been required to state my name or why I am needing to enter the schools at either the Grade School or the Munson Primary School. I have lived in Mulvane all my life and yes maybe they can see me out a window and recognize me, but if they have procedures they should follow them for everyone. As Lisa said “people become just another friendly face.” We are no longer a “Mayberry” community. However, growing up here things did happen we just didn't have it slapped in our faces on social media website. Parents have every right to be angry about this issue but instead of broadcasting to the public in the future, I wish they facts straight and trust our administration enough to let them address it first. I agree that education and training is the key point when it comes to the safety of our children. But as a parent I am a bit embarrassed when my community ends up in the news for reasons that have not been fully researched and addressed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1875195811184851268.post-68214930892006220412014-04-23T21:41:42.942-05:002014-04-23T21:41:42.942-05:00No disrespect to the blogger as you stated that yo...No disrespect to the blogger as you stated that you did not vote for this gym but many of those who are now so outraged did vote for it. What is happening is the consequences of their vote. One person in particular I tried to talk with several times about this issue before the vote and I was told that I was being an alarmist and didn't have all my facts. Now here we stand and she is yelling louder than anyone when she and her husband both voted for the darn gym. This is ridiculous. It is because of people like them that we are now stuck and legally I don't think the district or the MRC have to listen to anyone. The fact that they have called a special BOE mtg is nothing more than a show and in the end we are stuck. Come on people and pay attention to what you are voting for. You know who you are!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1875195811184851268.post-90404485735423694402014-04-23T19:13:33.194-05:002014-04-23T19:13:33.194-05:00Why would the school guard the kids privacy so clo...Why would the school guard the kids privacy so closely in all other instances and then let them be on display to complete strangers? What is this school district thinking and what is the rec center thinking? Aren't they afraid of the inevitable lawsuit that will result from all of this when someone gets hurt? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1875195811184851268.post-22411816072574527662014-04-23T19:06:57.325-05:002014-04-23T19:06:57.325-05:00You need to take this blog word for word to the sc...You need to take this blog word for word to the school board!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1875195811184851268.post-68308115371033115032014-04-23T19:04:27.137-05:002014-04-23T19:04:27.137-05:00I have to say wow! You brought up some things I ha...I have to say wow! You brought up some things I had not thought of such as kids getting used to faces and no longer considering them strangers. I had also not thought of predators watching our kids and taking notes on what kid might be easiest to prey on outside of school. This blog actually had some really good points and I think everyone in the district should read it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1875195811184851268.post-51655719209690064312014-04-23T18:32:07.291-05:002014-04-23T18:32:07.291-05:00This blog is articulate and thoughtful. Well said...This blog is articulate and thoughtful. Well said. <br />We do live in a world frought with fear due to heinous events that have taken the lives of our precious children. Some of these events were also at the hands of people whom had "clearance" to be on school property. I am not for or against the idea of shared gym time at this point. I am waiting this one out to become clearly advised on the issue of hearing "both" sides. <br />However I am completely for a civilized discussion about the issue of safety for our children. <br />Wouldn't it be grand to live in "Mayberry" once again. You nailed it on the head. We must do what is best and safe for our children. <br />Small towns are thick and carry a big stick to protect what is rightfully theirs and their heritage. <br />However the complete disregard for disagreement is unacceptable. Everyone pays their taxes just like their neighbors. A civilized discussion is now taking foreground. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853302616687472905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1875195811184851268.post-89012951481331335452014-04-23T18:29:46.815-05:002014-04-23T18:29:46.815-05:00Some of us voters did our research, and were flat ...Some of us voters did our research, and were flat out lied to. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1875195811184851268.post-34736379316386457262014-04-23T18:09:31.171-05:002014-04-23T18:09:31.171-05:00Voters need to do their research and educate thems...Voters need to do their research and educate themselves!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1875195811184851268.post-86585141424683507312014-04-23T17:55:41.913-05:002014-04-23T17:55:41.913-05:00The community rec center was poorly conceived by ...The community rec center was poorly conceived by city planners and the voters were clearly not informed when they cast their feel-good ballots. This plan should have never gone to the voters in the first place. <br /><br />But people voted for it. And now are paying for it and will for a long time to come. This is just another example of how elections matter.<br /><br />Where I live, a similar plan is being considered. There is no reasonable way to pay for this "shared" facility. And like Mulvane, I have a feeling in the end the community will not be happy with it should it be constructed.<br /><br />Sadly, the world is a different place than it was just 20 years. Sharing and security are now a regular part of our lives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com